Health professionals for Diabetes in Attica

Niagasa Xristina is an Endocrinologist-Diabetologist and maintains her private practice in Paleo Faliro. She is a summa cum laude graduate of the Medical School of the University of Aquila in Italy. She specialized at Hippocratio General Hospital of Athens (G.N.A.). During her specialty training, she also received education in managing endocrine disorders during pregnancy at "Elena Venizelou" General Hospital, and in the Endocrinology Department of Growth and Development at "Panagiotis and Aglaia Kyriakou" General Pediatric Hospital of Athens (G.N.P.A.). The physician has clinical experience in a wide range of endocrine disorders, including diabetes mellitus, diseases of the thyroid and parathyroid glands, osteoporosis and calcium metabolism disorders, menstrual and menopausal disorders, hypogonadism, adrenal and pituitary diseases, endocrine hypertension, obesity, lipid disorders, and endocrine disorders during pregnancy. She manages all cases with a patient-centered approach, taking into account the individualized needs of each patient she treats. Finally, the doctor participates in numerous conferences as part of her continuous education and is a member of the Hellenic Endocrine Society and the Hellenic Diabetological Society.

Kourgia Vasiliki is a Dietitian - Nutritionist and operates the dietary office "Diet for you" in Neo Iraklio. She studied in the Department of Nutrition & Dietetics at A.T.E.I Sitias, specializing in Eating Disorders at the postgraduate level. She has collaborated with the Central Clinic of Athens, with the obesity team of surgeon Mr. Grigoropoulos, and works systematically as a nutrition consultant in gyms and aesthetic centers. She has participated in various informative programs on state and private television as well as radio productions. Her articles have been published in magazines such as Vita, Armonia, as well as on several websites. In September 2014, she participated in the Stavros Niarchos Foundation program in remote areas involving anthropometric measurements in adults and children and providing information on promoting healthy nutrition for adults and children. She has taken part in various talks and conferences as a speaker on topics related to nutritional behaviors of adults and children, childhood obesity, and people with osteoporosis issues. She has attended various seminars on nutrition topics and conferences concerning new developments in nutrition and obesity. Her continuing education is ongoing through conferences and seminars on nutrition and psychology.

Panopoulos Panagiotis is a Clinical Dietitian - Nutritionist and head of the Dietetic and Counseling Center in Ilioupoli, a facility that also operates a Mental Health Counselor. Mr. Panopoulos specializes in diabetes mellitus, clinical nutrition, pediatric and adolescent nutrition, eating disorders, nutritional counseling, life coaching, as well as the management of morbid obesity and metabolic inactivity. He has extensive professional experience since 1995 in hospitals, sports, education, aesthetic and weight loss centers, intolerance centers, kindergartens, pregnancy and postpartum centers, and has delivered numerous lectures in primary and secondary education and nursing homes. Additionally, through specialized nutrition programs, he addresses issues of sluggish metabolism, overeating, picky appetite, psychological binge eating, food intolerance - allergies, menopause, cholesterol, hypertension, diabetes, kidney function, cardiological cases, constipation, irritable bowel syndrome, and gastric disorders.

Masouras Xaralampos MD is an Endocrinologist with private practices in Peristeri and Kallithea. He graduated from the Medical School of the National and Kapodistrian University of Athens and specialized in Internal Medicine at the 4th Internal Medicine Clinic of the University General Hospital of Athens "Attikon" and in Endocrinology at the 2nd Propaedeutic Internal Medicine Clinic of the same hospital. He completed an internship at the Endocrinology Clinic of the General Hospital of Athens "Korgialeneio - Benakeio" - Hellenic Red Cross. He is a member of the Hellenic Endocrine Society, the European Society of Endocrinology, the Medical Association of Athens, the Association for the Protection of Greek Hemophiliacs, the Hellenic Sepsis Society, and the Skeletal Health Association "Petalouda". Finally, the doctor participates in numerous conferences in Greece and abroad as part of his continuous professional development.

Kakoulidis Ioannis is an Endocrinologist - Diabetologist maintaining a private practice in Nea Ionia. He holds a degree from the Medical School of the National and Kapodistrian University of Athens and a Master's degree in "Research in Female Reproduction" from the Medical School of NKUA. He specialized in Endocrinology at the Department of Endocrinology, Diabetes, and Metabolism of the General Hospital - Maternity Hospital of Athens “Elena Venizelou.” During his specialization, he focused on Pregnancy Endocrinology and Andrology, and received training in thyroid ultrasound. He has participated in conferences both in Greece and internationally and has been actively involved in the design and implementation of prospective and retrospective studies in the Endocrinology department, which have been subsequently published or presented in national and international journals and conferences. In 2019, he was awarded by the Hellenic Endocrine Society with the I. Giannatos Award for Best Research Work in Clinical Endocrinology. His practice manages cases covering the entire spectrum of Endocrinology, specifically: Thyroid - Parathyroid Glands, Gestational Diabetes, and Pregnancy Endocrinology.

Karampelas Ilias is an Internist who maintains his private practice in Cholargos. He holds a medical degree from the University of Medicine and Pharmacology "Carol Davila" in Bucharest. He has served as an Internist in the Oncology Unit of the General Clinic Health Mansion "TYPET," as an Internist in the 2nd Internal Medicine Clinic of the Military Fund Nursing Institution, and as a Scientific Collaborator at the Diabetes Center of the same Hospital. Currently, he serves as an Internist in the Oncology Unit of the Athens Medical Center, as well as an Internist - Scientific Collaborator in the Oncology Unit of the 3rd University Internal Medicine Clinic of the General Chest Diseases Hospital "Sotiria." The doctor has participated in numerous international and nationwide scientific conferences, and he is a member of the editorial team of the journal "Diabetological News." Finally, it would be an omission not to mention the doctor's specialization in oncology, diabetes mellitus, and general internal medicine.

Ο Δρ. Βούλγαρης Νικόλαος ΜD, MSc, PhD είναι Στρατιωτικός Ιατρός, Ενδοκρινολόγος - Διαβητολόγος και Διδάκτωρ της Ιατρικής Σχολής του Εθνικού και Καποδιστριακού Πανεπιστημίου Αθηνών. Διαθέτει πτυχίο Ιατρικής από την Ιατρική Σχολή του Αριστοτελείου Πανεπιστημίου Θεσσαλονίκης και είναι απόφοιτος της Στρατιωτικής Σχολής Αξιωματικών Σωμάτων (Σ.Σ.Α.Σ.). Ειδικεύτηκε στην Ενδοκρινολογία, στο Ενδοκρινολογικό Τμήμα του Γενικού Νοσοκομείου Αθηνών "Γ. Γεννηματάς", στην Α΄ Παθολογική Κλινική του Ναυτικού Νοσοκομείου Αθηνών και στην Α' Παιδιατρική Κλινική του Εθνικού και Καποδιστριακού Πανεπιστημίου Αθηνών του Νοσοκομείου Παίδων "Η Αγία Σοφία", όπου εκπαιδεύτηκε στην αντιμετώπιση περιστατικών παιδιατρικής Ενδοκρινολογίας. Επίσης, κατά τη διάρκεια της Ειδικότητας εκπαιδεύτηκε στην αντιμετώπιση Ενδοκρινοπαθειών και Σαχαρώδους Διαβήτη στην Κύηση στο Ενδοκρινολογικό Τμήμα του Γενικού Νοσοκομείου - Μαιευτηρίου "Έλενα Βενιζέλου" και στην αντιμετώπιση παθήσεων Εμμηνόπαυσης στο Πανεπιστημιακό Τμήμα Κλιμακτηρίου - Εμμηνόπαυσης της Β΄ Μαιευτικής και Γυναικολογικής Κλινικής του Αρεταιείου Νοσοκομείου. Μετά την ολοκλήρωση της Ειδικότητας ο Ιατρός εξειδικεύτηκε στη Γυναικεία Αναπαραγωγή, καθώς και στις παθήσεις Επινεφριδίων - Ενδοκρινικής Υπέρτασης. Είναι κάτοχος Μεταπτυχιακού Διπλώματος (MSc) ειδίκευσης "Έρευνα στη Γυναικεία Αναπαραγωγή" της Ιατρικής Σχολής του Πανεπιστημίου Αθηνών (Βαθμός "Άριστα"), είναι Διπλωματούχος των Ευρωπαϊκών Εξετάσεων Ενδοκρινολογίας, Διαβήτη και Μεταβολισμού (Fellow of the European Board of Endocrinology, Diabetes and Metabolism), ενώ ολοκλήρωσε με "Άριστα" τη Διδακτορική του Διατριβή (PhD) και αναγορεύτηκε σε Διδάκτωρ της Ιατρικής Σχολής του Εθνικού και Καποδιστριακού Πανεπιστημίου Αθηνών. Είναι Επιμελητής στο Τμήμα Ενδοκρινολογίας, Σακχαρώδους Διαβήτη και Μεταβολισμού στο Ναυτικό Νοσοκομείο Αθηνών (Ν.Ν.Α.), όπου αντιμετωπίζει περιστατικά που άπτονται του επιστημονικού πεδίου της Ενδοκρινολογίας και του Διαβήτη. Είναι επιστημονικός συνεργάτης της Μονάδας Ιατρικώς Υποβοηθούμενης Αναπαραγωγής (Μ.Ι.Υ.Α.) των Ενόπλων Δυνάμεων. Διαθέτει πλούσια ερευνητική δραστηριότητα με δημοσιευμένες εργασίες σε ιατρικά περιοδικά της διεθνούς βιβλιογραφίας και ανακοινώσεις σε ελληνικά και διεθνή συνέδρια. Είναι μέλος της Ελληνικής Ενδοκρινολογικής Εταιρείας, καθώς και των εταιρειών Εndocrine Society, European Society of Endocrinology (ESE), Εuropean Neuroendocrine Association (ENEA), European Young Endocrinologists & Scientists (EYES). Διατηρεί ιδιωτικό ιατρείο στην πλατεία Μαβίλη.

• Η Λούφα Θεοδώρα είναι Παθολόγος-Διαβητολόγος και διατηρεί ιδιωτικό ιατρείο στην Καλλιθέα. Είναι απόφοιτη της Ιατρικής σχολής του Αριστοτέλειου Πανεπιστήμιου Θεσσαλονίκης και Διδάκτωρ στο Εθνικό και Καποδιστριακό Πανεπιστήμιο Αθηνών. Τελείωσε την 5ετή εκπαίδευση στην Κλινική της Παθολογικής Φυσιολογίας του Πανεπιστημίου Αθηνών του ΛαΪκού Νοσοκομείου. Υπηρέτησε από 9/3/2001 ως επιμελήτρια & Διευθύντρια από το 2016 έως το 2023 στο Γενικό Νοσοκομείο Ασκληπιείο Βούλας ως ειδικός παθολόγος & από το 2008 έως 2023 επιστημονικά υπεύθυνος του εξωτερικού Διαβητολογικού Ιατρείου αυτού. Επιπλέον διετέλεσε από 1992 έως 1997 Διευθύντρια στην Θεραπευτική Κλινική Αθηνών Συγγρού 202 Καλλιθέας.
• Επί 6ετία τακτικό μέλος στο Επιστημονικό Συμβούλιο του Γενικού Νοσοκομείου Ασκληπιείου Βούλας.
• Διευθύντρια Σύνταξης στο περιοδικό «Ασκληπιειακά Χρονικά»
• Μέλος της Συντακτικής Επιτροπής του περιοδικού «Σύγχρονη Ιατρική Ενημέρωση-Current Medical Journal.»
• Έχει διατελέσει μέλος της Επιστημονικής Επιτροπής του περιοδικού «Ιατρικά Χρονικά»
• Μέλος Ελληνικής Διαβητολογικής Εταιρείας
• Μέλος της Eυρωπαϊκής Διαβητολογική Εταιρείας. EASD
• Μέλος Ελληνικής Εταιρίας Στρατηγικών Μελετών Διαβήτη (ΕΛΕΣΜΕΔ)
• Μέλος Ελληνικής Εταιρείας Μελέτης & Εκπαίδευσης Για τον Σακχαρώδη Διαβήτη.
• Πρώην Δ.Ε.Β.Ε.
• Μέλος Ελληνικής Εταιρίας Εσωτερικής Παθολογίας
• Συμμετοχή στην Μελέτη «REDIT-2-DIAG» με τίτλο «Πανελλαδική Μελέτη Καταγραφής της Νεφρικής Νόσου σε Ασθενείς με Διαβήτη Τύπου 2» της Ελληνικής Διαβητολογικής Εταιρείας
• Παρακολούθηση πληθώρας Συνεδρίων. Συμμετοχή σαν ομιλήτρια και Προεδρεία Επιστημονικών Συνεδρίων.
• Συγγραφή επιστημονικών Άρθρων δημοσιευμένων σε έγκριτα περιοδικά που κατέχουν την εθνική αναγνώριση.
• Λόγω της επί σειρά ετών Νοσοκομειακής εμπειρίας της, έχει την ικανότητα της προσέγγισης και διαχείρισης όλων των νοσημάτων της Εσωτερικής Παθολογίας και της Διαβητολογίας.

Katsamani Eleutheria MSc (MedSc) is a Clinical Dietitian - Nutritionist with a private practice in Pefki. She holds a Master of Science degree (MSc MedSc) in Clinical Dietetics from the University of Glasgow and a Bachelor Honors degree in Dietetics - Nutrition from Glasgow Caledonian University, United Kingdom. She is active through television and radio interviews, informative lectures, written articles in newspapers, online platforms, and school talks, aiming at continuous education on nutritional issues. She is a State Registered Dietitian in the United Kingdom and a member of the Panhellenic Association of Dietitians - Nutritionists.

Afentoulidi Katerina is an Endocrinologist who maintains a private practice in the areas of Zografou and Gerakas. Upon completing her basic medical studies, she underwent a three-month medical training program in the Cardiology, Internal Medicine, and Surgical Departments at the General Hospital of Chios "Skylitseio." Subsequently, she fulfilled her mandatory rural service at the Multifunctional Regional Clinic of Volissos, Chios. She specialized in Endocrinology and later in Diabetes Mellitus at the General Hospital "Hippocrates" in Athens. Additionally, she has been trained in endocrine aspects of pregnancy at the General Hospital "Elena Venizelou." She possesses extensive experience and training, specializing in diabetes mellitus, thyroid and parathyroid glands, as well as osteoporosis.

Kanellopoulou Sofia is an Endocrinologist and maintains a private clinic in Agioi Anargyroi. She studied at the Medical School of the National and Kapodistrian University of Athens and Molecular Biology and Genetics at the Democritus University of Thrace. Additionally, she completed postgraduate studies in Reproductive Endocrinology at Imperial College London. She initially specialized at the 2nd Oncology Clinic of the General Oncology Hospital of Kifisia and subsequently at the Endocrinology Clinic - Diabetes Center of Evangelismos Hospital. She has clinical experience and is an Endocrinology Consultant at Metropolitan Hospital.

Το διαιτολογικό γραφείο Geothrepsis | Βερλέκη Γεωργία εδρεύει στους Αμπελόκηπους στην Αθήνα από τον Δεκέμβριο του 2022. Η Βερλέκη Γεωργία είναι Διαιτολόγος - Διατροφολόγος και υπεύθυνη του διαιτολογικού γραφείου. Αποφοίτησε από το Ανώτατο Τεχνολογικό Εκπαιδευτικό Ίδρυμα Θεσσαλίας και, έπειτα, προχώρησε σε μεταπτυχιακές σπουδές με κατεύθυνση την Κλινική – Ιατρική Διατροφή, στην Ιατρική Σχολή του Αριστοτελείου Πανεπιστημίου Θεσσαλονίκης. Διαθέτει επαγγελματική και κλινική εμπειρία από το 2016, αφού έχει εργασθεί ως Κλινική Διαιτολόγος - Διατροφολόγος στη Γενική Κλινική Metropolitan General, συμμετείχε στο σχεδιασμό της υπηρεσίας, «Υπηρεσία Εξατομικευμένης Διατροφικής Φροντίδας – Advanced Patient Nutrition», του Γενικού και Γυναικολογικού / Μαιευτικού Νοσοκομείου ΜΗΤΕΡΑ και εργαζόταν, παράλληλα, ως Διαιτολόγος - Διατροφολόγος σε ιδιωτικό διαιτολογικό γραφείο των Αθηνών. Την εξάμηνη πρακτική της άσκηση ολοκλήρωσε επιτυχώς στην Γενική Κλινική ΙΑΣΩ General. Είναι μέλος της Ένωσης Διαιτολόγων Διατροφολόγων Ελλάδας (ΕΔΔΕ) από το 2016. Στο ιδιωτικό της γραφείο πραγματοποιεί όλες τις συνεδρίες, για φυσιολογικές και παθολογικές καταστάσεις, ενηλίκων, παιδιών, εφήβων, εγκύων, θηλαζουσών και ατόμων τρίτης ηλικίας. Η εξατομίκευση είναι ο βασικός άξονας στον οποίο στηρίζεται η προσέγγισή της. Βασικό της μέλημα είναι να ανοίξει καινούργιους δρόμους σε όσους την εμπιστευθούν. Κινείται πάντα με γνώμονα την αφετηρία, το παρελθόν και τους στόχους του καθενός και με σεβασμό στη διαφορετικότητα, σχεδιάζει προγράμματα διατροφής που θα οδηγήσουν αργά ή γρήγορα, αλλά κυρίως ανθρώπινα στο επιθυμητό αποτέλεσμα. Εκτός από τη διαχείριση βάρους και τη διατροφική εκπαίδευση, αναλαμβάνει και την διατροφική υποστήριξη κλινικών περιστατικών. Ενίοτε σε πιο αυστηρό πλαίσιο. Όμως πάντα με επίκεντρο τον ασθενή, τα "θέλω" και τα "δε θέλω" του, τις κόκκινες γραμμές του. Με τον εξοπλισμό τελευταίας τεχνολογίας (επαγγελματικό ζυγό και αναλυτή σύστασης σώματος με βιοηλεκτρική εμπέδηση) που διαθέτει το γραφείο εγγυάται πάντα τα πιο ακριβή αποτελέσματα μετρήσεων. Οι συνεδρίες μπορούν να πραγματοποιηθούν και από απόσταση.

Dr. Pouxner Karolos is a Pathologist and maintains a private practice in Koukaki. He graduated from the Medical University of Vienna, Austria, in 2005, holding a Master's Degree in "International Health" and a Diploma in Tropical Medicine and Public Health from the Medical University of Berlin. Additionally, he earned a Doctorate from the Medical School of the University of Freiburg, Germany, in 2010. He completed his specialty training in Internal Pathology at university hospitals in Berlin and has been continuously working since 2006 in various fields of clinical medicine, public, and international health. As a pathologist, he has received further training and possesses extensive experience in the diagnosis, treatment, and monitoring of chronic diseases such as Diabetes Mellitus, Hypertension, Hyperlipidemia, Thyroid Disorders, Liver Diseases, as well as Travel Medicine and Tropical Diseases. His scientific and research interests include Community and Public Health, Health Policy, Epidemiology, Tropical, Migrant, and Humanitarian Medicine, as well as International and Global Health. He has authored ten foreign-language publications in scientific journals, six presentations at international conferences, and contributed one chapter to an edited volume. He has participated in numerous European and international conferences and advanced training programs. Regarding his professional experience, he has many years of teaching experience in adult education, serves as an external lecturer at the Medical University of Berlin, and is a scientific collaborator of the Master's Program "Global Health – Disaster Medicine" at the Medical School of the National and Kapodistrian University of Athens. Recently, he was appointed lead instructor of the "Migration and Health" module in the Master's Program "Public Health and Health Policy" at Aristotle University of Thessaloniki.

Zaxarou Vera - Nutrithink is a Dietitian - Nutritionist and operates a private practice in Piraeus. She completed her studies in the Department of Nutrition and Dietetics at the Technological Educational Institute of Crete. Additionally, she attended a Health Coach training seminar and subsequently a professional development program in Pediatric Nutrition at the National and Kapodistrian University of Athens. She has experience and contributes articles to various websites.

Greka Athina is a Specialist Pathologist - master in Nutrition - master in Gerontology. She maintains private practices in Kypseli and Oropos. She is a graduate of the Medical School of the National and Kapodistrian University of Athens and holds a postgraduate degree in "Emergency Prehospital Medicine" from the Ministry of Health and the National Emergency Center (EKAV). Additionally, she holds a master's degree in Gerontology from the European University Cyprus and a master's degree in Dietetics and Nutrition Studies, Pearson Assured, from the United Kingdom. The doctor regularly attends and contributes papers to numerous conferences in Greece and abroad, as part of her ongoing professional development, and has authored articles in general interest magazines on health topics. It is noteworthy that she has been awarded by the Athens Medical Association for her voluntary participation in the Social Mission Clinic, by EKEPY for training and voluntary involvement in the Emergency Medical Teams for urgent situations of the Athens Medical Association, and has received honorable mention for her voluntary participation in the Social Mission Clinic. Ms. Greka is a scientific collaborator at the Athens Medical Center and a volunteer doctor with Doctors of the World. Her clinics address issues of general pathology and provide solutions for vulnerable cases. Moreover, both emergency and scheduled cases of general pathology are managed, with an emphasis on health prevention, combining therapeutic treatment with exercise and nutrition, tailored to existing comorbidities, on an individualized and case-by-case basis.

Xiotelis Ignatios is a Dietitian - Nutritionist who maintains a private practice in Ilioupoli while also conducting remote counseling sessions. He graduated from the University of Greenwich with comprehensive studies in Human Nutrition and Dietetics and has completed an Integrated Master’s degree in Food Science and Nutrition at the Agricultural University of Athens. Combining his studies, he possesses a strong scientific background in both the biochemistry and physiology of nutrition as well as applied clinical practice. He has professional experience as a Dietitian - Nutritionist, providing personalized nutrition programs and comprehensive dietary support based on the individual needs and medical history of each person. He specializes in pediatric and adolescent nutrition, nutritional management of diabetes mellitus, clinical dietetics, nutritional counseling, obesity management, and metabolism regulation. Additionally, he works with nutrition and exercise, supporting individuals seeking to improve their body composition and overall health through a scientifically grounded approach. His goal is to develop realistic and sustainable dietary habits tailored to each person’s lifestyle, emphasizing nutritional education, prevention, and the long-term maintenance of results.

Maria Giannakou is an Endocrinologist and operates a private practice in Vrilissia. She specializes in Diabetes and Metabolism and holds a PhD from the Medical School of the National and Kapodistrian University of Athens. Her doctoral thesis focused on chronic autoimmune thyroiditis and the nutritional and oxidative factors influencing its progression. She has extensive experience in university and hospital settings, having trained at the Center of Expertise for Rare Endocrine Diseases of the General Hospital of Athens "Evangelismos," as well as in the 1st Oncology Clinic of the General Oncology Hospital "Agioi Anargyroi." Currently, she is a consulting endocrinologist at the Endocrinology Unit of the University of Athens and at Medifirst in Marousi. She is a member of the Athens Medical Association, the General Medical Council of the United Kingdom, and the Endocrinological Society, remaining actively informed of scientific developments in her field.

Maria Mpergele is a Dietitian - Nutritionist and maintains her private offices in Nea Ionia and in the center of Athens. She holds a degree in Nutrition and Dietetics from the University of Thessaly and, as part of her continuous professional development, she has attended and continues to attend numerous postgraduate scientific seminars and conferences related to her specialty. She has extensive experience in managing clinical cases (such as Diabetes Mellitus, hypercholesterolemia, thyroid disorders, gut health) and also treats adolescent cases. In the past, she served as a Dietitian - Nutritionist at a Nutrition and Aesthetics Center and completed her internship in the Nutrition and Dietetics Department at the Korgialeneio-Benakio General Hospital (Red Cross). Currently, in addition to her private practice, she collaborates with a Nursery School providing nutritional services as well as with a Wellness and Care Center.

Dr. Mamalis Dimitris is a specialized Endocrinologist – Diabetologist and Metabolism Specialist, with a particular focus on thyroid disorders, Diabetes, Gestational Diabetes, and Obesity management.

He maintains a private practice in Ampelokipoi and Livadeia.

He graduated from Medical School in 2004. He specialized at the University Clinic of Düsseldorf (Germany) and in the Endocrinology Clinic of the General Hospital of Athens "Evangelismos."

He gained significant experience in the management of Gestational Diabetes at the Gestational Diabetes Department of the University Clinic of “Alexandra” Hospital.

Additionally, he specialized in the management of menopause disorders at the corresponding department of the University Hospital “Aretaieio.”

He has conducted research on Gitelman and Bartter syndromes. (Saudi J Kidney Dis Transpl Jan-Feb Persistent Hypokalemia due to a rare mutation in Gitelman's Syndrome.)

In 2020, he completed with distinction courses at Yale University, USA, in Political Science: "The Strategy of Negotiations" and

at Harvard University (Harvard, USA): "Rhetoric, the Art of Persuasion in Written and Public Speaking."